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Reform Bill 2014  

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General Goose
(@general-goose)
Member
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 362
06/06/2019 7:13 pm  

Mr Speaker,

If I may, the member from Croydon South has made an elementary error. The bill, as written, already includes a referendum on STV. He should, at least, get such a basic fact right before speaking on such length on the subject. 

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
Deputy Prime Minister
Liberal Democrat Leader
Foreign Secretary
Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Climate Change
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Technology

Parliamentary - 36
Media - 53
Policy - 48


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Sylviane Jaubert
(@ege)
Member
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 155
06/06/2019 8:54 pm  

Mr.Speaker,

I move to strike part 4 of the Reform Act. 

Sylviane Jaubert MP
MP for Cynon Valley

Formerly as The Rt Hon Ariadne "Ari" Suchet MP
Former Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party

"TrashPotato Today at 2:11 AM
my friend offered me a bottle of vodka and i sucked the vodka out the bottle like a baby sucking a titty"


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Macmillan
(@dylan-macmillan)
MP for North East Bedfordshire
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 560
08/06/2019 10:45 pm  

Mr Speaker I welcome the Right Honourable Lady's realisation that this legislation is at least partially detrimental to the United Kingdom although I do wish that she had gone further. Now that the Government have decided against dismantling every borough and county council in the land in favour of Unitary Authorities perhaps they might wish to take a second shot at avoiding other damaging aspects.

The fact of the matter is Mr Speaker that despite this small change to the legislation this legislation is wholly detrimental to the future of our United Kingdom. Section 1 of this bill shows just how willing the Labour Party have become to run from their election promises and further jeopardise trust in our politics. The Labour manifesto clearly states that any constitutional reforms would be subject to a referendum in which all four constituent nations of the UK would have a veto. Now whether this was a cogent and worthwhile thing to promise is beyond the pale at this point because at the end of the day the Labour Party were elected into government on a manifesto that promoted this policy. It is imperative that the government respect their own mandate, the mandate given to them by the British public at the last election, and implement a referendum on the terms they set out in the electoral contract that they signed with millions of our electorate last year.

Section 3 of the bill is equally damaging to our country because it sets a dangerous precedent. The people of Cornwall have not asked for devolution and they have not voted for devolution but they are in fact having it forced upon them by this Government. Now whether this Government are just sick of Cornwall and want it to go away or whether they actually believe this will be good for the county is neither here nor there because this plan has no democratic legitimacy. The Labour Party manifesto made no mention of it, the Lib Dem manifesto was rejected by vast swathes of the country and even by a majority of seats in Cornwall itself, this plan has no democratic legitimacy and must be given it through a referendum.

Mr Speaker these half-baked plans may have started off as good intentions but they have clearly lost their way. This Government is so desperate to appear to be doing something, anything, in light of their recent absences in this House and in the country that they would attempt to push this bill through. Mr Speaker this is not sound policy this is political dogma from a Prime Minister so desperate to keep the Liberal Democrats on side that she would risk open rebellion from her backbenches to keep herself in bed and board at Number 10. Our country deserves better. When it comes to the United Kingdom's constitution we cannot afford to half bake our plans in a desperate lurch to protect the ego of the most reviled man on the Labour benches, and for once that isn't even me. I urge the Government to pull this bill, or at least subject it to a test to ensure its democratic legitimacy in accordance with the manifesto that the vast majority of this government were elected to uphold.

Conservative MP for North East Bedfordshire
Leader of the Opposition (2014-16)

Prime Minister (2014)

Parliamentary Experience: Novice (25)
Media Experience: Experienced (62)
Policy Experience: Novice (29)


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Dan
 Dan
(@dan)
Member A-team
Joined: 8 months ago
Posts: 139
09/06/2019 6:09 pm  

Division!

Clear the Lobbies

Dan

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Macmillan
(@dylan-macmillan)
MP for North East Bedfordshire
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 560
10/06/2019 10:20 am  

Votes:

  • Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye (as in I vote for their Lordships' amendment and for the government's acceptance of it)
  • Motion to reject Amendment 2: Noe (as in, I vote for their Lordships' amendment and against the government's rejection of it)
  • Motion to reject Amendment 3: Noe
  • Motion to reject Amendment 4: Noe
  • Motion to reject Amendment 5: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 8: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 9: Noe
  • Motion to reject Amendment 15: Noe
  • Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye

Conservative MP for North East Bedfordshire
Leader of the Opposition (2014-16)

Prime Minister (2014)

Parliamentary Experience: Novice (25)
Media Experience: Experienced (62)
Policy Experience: Novice (29)


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Steven Andrews
(@steven-andrews)
Member
Joined: 4 months ago
Posts: 120
10/06/2019 10:30 am  

Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye (as in I vote for their Lordships' amendment and for the government's acceptance of it)
Motion to reject Amendment 2: Noe (as in, I vote for their Lordships' amendment and against the government's rejection of it)
Motion to reject Amendment 3: Noe
Motion to reject Amendment 4: Noe
Motion to reject Amendment 5: Noe
Motion to reject Amendment 8: Aye
Motion to reject Amendment 9: Noe
Motion to reject Amendment 15: Noe
Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye

Steven Andrews, MP for Croydon South

34 Policy/18 Media/23 Parliamentary


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James Kirkland
(@james-kirkland)
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Joined: 3 months ago
Posts: 3
10/06/2019 1:23 pm  

Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye (as in I vote for their Lordships' amendment and for the government's acceptance of it)
Motion to reject Amendment 2: Noe (as in, I vote for their Lordships' amendment and against the government's rejection of it)
Motion to reject Amendment 3: Noe
Motion to reject Amendment 4: Noe
Motion to reject Amendment 5: Aye
Motion to reject Amendment 8: Aye
Motion to reject Amendment 9: Noe
Motion to reject Amendment 15: Noe
Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye

Conservative MP for Canterbury

Parliamentary Experience: Unknown (15)
Media Experience: Capable (7)
Policy Experience: Unknown (8)


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Douglas Byrne
(@douglas-byrne)
Member
Joined: 4 months ago
Posts: 37
10/06/2019 1:59 pm  
  • Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 2: No
  • Motion to reject Amendment 3: No
  • Motion to reject Amendment 4: No
  • Motion to reject Amendment 5: No
  • Motion to reject Amendment 8: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 9: No
  • Motion to reject Amendment 15: No
  • Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye

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General Goose
(@general-goose)
Member
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 362
10/06/2019 4:06 pm  
  • Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 2: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 3: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 4: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 5: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 8: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 9: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 15: Aye
  • Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
Deputy Prime Minister
Liberal Democrat Leader
Foreign Secretary
Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Climate Change
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Technology

Parliamentary - 36
Media - 53
Policy - 48


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Sylviane Jaubert
(@ege)
Member
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 155
10/06/2019 6:52 pm  
  • Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 2: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 3: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 4: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 5: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 8: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 9: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 15: Aye
  • Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye

Sylviane Jaubert MP
MP for Cynon Valley

Formerly as The Rt Hon Ariadne "Ari" Suchet MP
Former Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party

"TrashPotato Today at 2:11 AM
my friend offered me a bottle of vodka and i sucked the vodka out the bottle like a baby sucking a titty"


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Charles Kinbote
(@charles-kinbote)
Member
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 54
10/06/2019 8:25 pm  
 
 
 
Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye (as in I vote for their Lordships' amendment and for the government's acceptance of it)
Motion to reject Amendment 2: Noe (as in, I vote for their Lordships' amendment and against the government's rejection of it)
Motion to reject Amendment 3: No
Motion to reject Amendment 4: No
Motion to reject Amendment 5: No
Motion to reject Amendment 8: No
Motion to reject Amendment 9: No
Motion to reject Amendment 15: No
Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye
 
 
 

MP for Woking 2005 -

TOTAL EXPERIENCE 44

Parliamentary 20
Media 15
Policy 9


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John Knox
(@jknox)
Member
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 80
10/06/2019 9:16 pm  

Aye to all amendments 

Calvin Ward Conservative MP for Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale

Parliamentary- 7
Media- 13
Policy- 6


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Bertie
(@tonybcwilson)
Anthony B.C. Wilson MP
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 89
11/06/2019 11:34 am  

Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye

Motion to reject Amendment 2: Noe

Motion to reject Amendment 3: Noe

Motion to reject Amendment 4: Aye

Motion to reject Amendment 5: Noe

Motion to reject Amendment 8: Noe

Motion to reject Amendment 9: Noe

Motion to reject Amendment 15: Noe

Motion to accept Amendment 18:  Aye

Anthony Bertram Charles Wilson, MP for Darlington.
Parliamentary: 11
Media: 24
Policy: 6


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William Croft
(@william-croft)
Member
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 260
11/06/2019 7:19 pm  
  • Motion to accept Amendment 1: Aye (as in I vote for their Lordships' amendment and for the government's acceptance of it)
  • Motion to reject Amendment 2: Noe (as in, I vote for their Lordships' amendment and against the government's rejection of it)
  • Motion to reject Amendment 3: Noe
  • Motion to reject Amendment 4: Noe
  • Motion to reject Amendment 5: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 8: Aye
  • Motion to reject Amendment 9: Noe
  • Motion to reject Amendment 15: Noe
  • Motion to accept Amendment 18: Aye

William Croft
Member of Parliament for Bracknell
Shadow Foreign Secretary
Chairman of the Conservative Party
Chief Whip of the Conservative party


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Richard
(@richard)
Member A-team
Joined: 5 months ago
Posts: 159
13/06/2019 10:33 pm  

On Amendment 1, Ayes to the right, 646, Noes to the left, 0. So the Ayes have it, the House agrees with the Lords.

On Amendment 2, Ayes to the right, 368, Noes to the left, 278. So the Ayes have it, the House disagrees with the Lords.

Amendment 3 is out of order, as similar text is already included in the bill.

On Amendment 4, Ayes to the right, 368, Noes to the left, 278. So the Ayes have it, the House disagrees with the Lords.

On Amendment 5, Ayes to the right, 435, Noes to the left, 219. So the Ayes have it, the House disagrees with the Lords.

On Amendment 8, Ayes to the right 623, Noes to the left, 31. So the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it.

On Amendment 9, Ayes to the right, 314, Noes to the left, 312, those Abstaining, 20. So the Ayes have it, the House disagrees with the Lords.

On Amendment 15, Ayes to the right, 311, Noes to the left, 315, those Abstaining, 20. So the Noes have it, the House agrees with the Lords.

On Amendment 18, Ayes to the right, 654, Noes to the left, 0. So the Ayes have it, the House agrees with the Lords.

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