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Press Cycle 11 - Coalition Agreement  

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Nathan
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29/03/2019 10:30 am  

back to business, guys. 

“Is the coalition agreement good for Britain? And which party comes out better?” 

Closes 02/04/2019 at 23:59

 


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General Goose
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29/03/2019 11:18 am  

The coalition deal that we have arrived at is a progressive and effective programme for government. It delivers on core Lib Dem pledges to fight poverty and lack of opportunity, distribute the burdens of smart deficit reduction fairly, and start addressing the long term challenges our nation faces such as industrial strategy, climate change and a rapidly changing world. It respects - rather than denies - both where our values and policies align and also where they part. It also assures that a vast majority of the goals in both manifestos will be worked towards, solidifying our democratic mandate.

((Reposting from general press cycle))

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
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William Croft
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29/03/2019 7:30 pm  

As far as Britain's place in the world is considered, the Coalition Agreement is an absolute disaster for both our country and the global community. The coalition government has put forth a foreign policy that will relegate Britain to a second-class nation, a relic of what we once were and nothing close to what we could have become. Yet again we find ourselves with a Labour-led government determined to silence the British people on the issue of our membership to the European Union. Yet again we find ourselves with a Labour-led government that, at best, offers lukewarm support to Trident and fails to even acknowledge the vital nuclear deterrent in their coalition agreement with the Liberal Democrats. And yet again, this time thanks to the leadership of the Liberal Democrats, we have a government eager to pursue the foolish and utterly misguided policy of nuclear proliferation without any guarantees from other nations doing the same and at a time when Russia has illegally invaded a sovereign nation. Under the leadership of the coalition government Britain will be woefully and critically unprepared to meet the challenges we and our allies face across the world. With this coalition agreement the government has sent a resounding message to the global community that Britain will be neglecting our duty to preserve democratic values and will resign ourselves to the rank of a follower when we should be a leader. 


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General Goose
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30/03/2019 9:44 am  

The Conservative manifesto was rather threadbare when it came to foreign and defence policy, so perhaps they can be forgiven for repeatedly misunderstanding the coalition's pledges and commitments here. We are committed to making the most of the first Liberal Foreign Secretary in over eighty years to make the world a fairer and more democratic place and establish the UK as an enduring leader on the key issues facing the world today. Despite the public statements from William Croft and Barclay Calhoun, key issues of foreign and defence policy such as the nuclear deterrent are covered in the coalition agreement, under paragraph 8; there is zero commitment to unilateral nuclear disarmament, only multilateral - so Croft lied on that - and despite the fearmongering from Calhoun, the coalition agreement does not say that the UK will push for an EU Senate, an EU President and certainly not an EU federation. The Conservative Party's response to this coalition has been Project Fear - do not believe them. 

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Climate Change
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Technology

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Macmillan
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30/03/2019 9:16 pm  

This Coalition Agreement is actively damaging for the UK at home and abroad. The sensible u-turns by the Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats on putting taxes up has resulted in a net loss to the Exchequer of about £30bn, a hole which has not been filled. Instead of scaling back their uncosted and unfundable commitments the Coalition have chosen the most expensive policy proposals where they can and further squeezed our country. Leadership is about making the tough choices rather than trying to be all things to all people, Labour aren't making tough choices they're just kicking the can down the road.

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Macmillan
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30/03/2019 9:19 pm  

It's somewhat expectable that when you put a Europhile in the Foreign Office you will get a pro-EU agenda for the nation's foreign policy, what was unexpected was such a failure to comprehend the actual issues facing the EU that are in desperate need of reform. In my response to the Throne Speech I outlined several alternative areas that could see reform for the European Parliament rather than the catchy, but ultimately pointless, quote that we should simply "give it the power to create legislation". The Coalition's plan for the EU is simple, try to placate the masses and then drive for ever greater integration, the Government need to get real with their wish list and focus on the reforms that matter.

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Macmillan
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30/03/2019 9:22 pm  

Spineless Suchet has well and truly been given over to her puppet masters, whether they be the hardcore Blairite resignation rebels or the Liberal Democrats it is difficult to say that any of her cornerstone policies have actually survived the negotiating progress. Her big tax plan, binned. Her nationalisation plan, on the shelf. Cabinet collective responsibility has been reduced to an illusion that can be turned on and off again depending on the issue, unless it's electoral reform at which point the Lib Dems demand that the entire Cabinet set aside their honestly and earnestly held views or resign. The Prime Minister is in office but she certainly is not in power, she's u-turned on so many of her cornerstone policies she could give the Lib Dems a lesson or two.

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Anita Redmond
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30/03/2019 10:10 pm  

The Liberal Democrats have come out well in the initial stages, but it remains to be seen whether they will do so well in the later stages of the coalition. They have committed to various Labour policies which reflect the same wreckless spending we've seen from previous Labour Governments, with little or no detail on how to fund their proposals. Having such an afterthought on our nation's finances, at a time when we have had to be nothing but careful with them, is dangerous. I hope that this is not an example of things to come from the LibDems' in terms of their 'moderation' of the Labour left.

It is up to the Conservatives to offer credible opposition, and ensure each department is held to account, particularly on matters such as Crime, Foreign Affairs, and the budget, where ideas have been coming thick and fast, but detail and money has been in short supply.

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General Goose
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30/03/2019 10:16 pm  

On Newsnight, Anita Redmond promised scrutiny of the government, and we welcome that. That is the Opposition's job. But the memo doesn't seem to have reached her colleagues, let alone her leader. Dylan Macmillan has a tendency to just not understand the arguments his political opponents are making - and then filling in the gaps in his own knowledge with a strawman of his making that he can use to make hyperbolic attacks that do nothing to help improve public trust in his politics. He continues his disingenous equation of capital and current spending. He continues perpetuating this falsehood that a nuanced approach to collective cabinet responsibility includes "cherry picking" - a lie. He just spouts falsehood after falsehood on the EU programme of this government, clearly not understanding the coalition agreement. He attacks us for calling for a Senate - the Labour manifesto called for that, the Liberal Democrats disagreed, there is ZERO commitment to push for that in the agreement. He then lists off a litany of his own EU reform proposals, all of which he probably should have included in his election manifesto, some of which were actually included in the Liberal Democrat election manifesto. For example, he says we should abolish the practice of the EU Parliament spending time travelling to Strasbourg every month. And that's in the Liberal Democrat manifesto and, as per paragraph 8, the coalition agreement. It's curious to see Dylan Macmillan call on the government to champion a policy that we've already committed to fighting for. 

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
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Deborah Carpenter
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31/03/2019 3:12 pm  

The Government say they won't raise taxes like they had planned. The Government say they will vastly increase public spending, more than they had planned. The Government say they will eliminate the deficit faster than they had planned. The Liberal Democrats' penny on the Basic Rate has gone, as has the Labour threat of a 60% rate. Labour said the deficit would be eliminated by 2020. The Liberal Democrats didn't set a target at all. The Coalition Agreement instead sets a deadline of the 2018-19 financial year. So that's no tax rises, bigger spending and a faster-reducing deficit. The Government's spending plans are either a magic trick, or a complete fantasy. There is a black hole at the heart of them, and you just know it will be the British people that will pay the price.

Deborah Carpenter | Conservative Party
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General Goose
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31/03/2019 3:41 pm  

Another flagrant lie from Deborah Carpenter - contrary to what she says, the Liberal Democrats did set a deficit elimination target in our manifesto, and ultimately negotiated the Labour Party down to a 2019 target. The Conservative Party promised to scrutinise this government. So far, they have struggled to grasp even the most basic facts. 

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
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Deborah Carpenter
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31/03/2019 3:51 pm  

The point stands. The Liberal Democrats have abondoned their flagship tax increase, and are promising more spending. It's worse than tax and spend, it's borrow and spend. It shows that this Government have learnt nothing from the financial crisis, and are sailing straight towards plunging Britain into financial turmoil once again.

Deborah Carpenter | Conservative Party
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General Goose
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31/03/2019 3:57 pm  

A vast majority of the tax and spending changes we promised in our manifesto - the ones that would have dramatically reduced the deficit - are intact in the coalition agreement, and will be joined with a majority of the Labour proposals to reduce the deficit. The Conservatives are just embarrassing themselves. 

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
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Meredith Hansen-Charles
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31/03/2019 7:38 pm  

The coalition agreement between the Liberal Democrats and Labour sets out a bold vision for a progressive future for the United Kingdom. While the Conservatives bemoan the election result and complain about the European Union, the Government is getting to work delivering on the promises made in our manifestos and the agreement strikes a good balance between our two parties to do that. There is a chance for British politics to move on from the sleaze and scandal of the Conservative party and deliver a politics and government that is focused on working for the British people. That is what the Liberal Democrats will be doing in Government.

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Macmillan
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31/03/2019 9:29 pm  

The Coalition Agreement puts a lot on the table, including a £30bn funding gap thanks to both parties' u-turns on income tax increases, but it also leaves a lot off of the table. The next five years are going to be defined by Government from the shadows and the dusty back offices with deals cut away from the public limelight because Spineless Suchet decided to kick yet another can down the road.

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