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Steve
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12/05/2019 8:48 pm  

Closes 23:59 on the 15th May.

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Faye Gallacher
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13/05/2019 12:21 am  

The results have broadly made it clear that the Scottish people wish to remain within the United Kingdom, but they want a new settlement where they have a stronger say over how Scotland is run. All of us must form a cross party group, respect that and come together to deliver on that clear mandate. 

"[we] would rather die than leave the Labour Party." - Emily Thornberry.


Faye Gallacher
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13/05/2019 12:32 am  

All parties have united to commit to more devolution for Scotland. That is a start. But it must only be the start: we only need to glance over the 'Yes' results to know that some people feel so desperate, so disenfranchised, following a financial crisis which has seen real wages fall, they want some alternative to the economic and political status quo in Westminster which they feel has let them down.

As well as promising a new devolution settlement, Labour has made it loud and clear that we want to change politics in the United Kingdom, not just Scotland, fundamentally - reforming Westminster and the economy to make sure it works for all regions in the United Kingdom, including Scotland. This fundamental redistribution of wealth and power to ordinary people from the powerful is at the heart of the Labour Party's agenda.

"[we] would rather die than leave the Labour Party." - Emily Thornberry.


Steven Andrews
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14/05/2019 6:14 am  

While I agree that there is a broad consensus that devolution is "part of the deal" with respect to Scotland's decision to remain in the Union, I think it remains to be seen just what form that will take. I echo the call from my colleagues from Labour for negotiating a deal that meets with approval from all parties.

I would add to Labour's call that an aggressive move for devolution to Scotland also needs to come with a devolution of some matters to the English MPs. Scotland deserves to have control over many, many matters...but the level of control that they seek does need to come with the understanding that Scotland in turn won't also get to double dip and control what happens south of the border in those same areas.

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Macmillan
(@dylan-macmillan)
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14/05/2019 9:06 am  

I am delighted that the Scottish people have voted to remain in the United Kingdom, the result was closer than expected but is still a resounding endorsement of the union that closes this issue for a generation. Over the course of the campaign the Westminster parties made a series of vows to the Scottish people on issues such as devolution which we must now follow through on. My party will continue to advocate for our policies of full income tax devolution, the devolution of some powers for corporation tax, and constitutional protection and powers for the Scottish Parliament. I welcome the Labour Party's openness to these ideas and will be more than happy to join any cross-party vehicle to secure further devolution for the Scottish people but I will not sign up to a cross-party exercise that seeks to do little more than endorse the "official government position" that was pushed throughout the campaign. An open process will require that all voices are listened to and I urge the Government to do just that.

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Macmillan
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14/05/2019 9:18 am  

There is a consensus emerging that the Scottish people deserve more devolution, this is good and is to be applauded across the political spectrum, however there are a multitude of constitutional questions that simply must also be addressed. The discrepancy between Scottish and Welsh devolution must be looked at and steps must be taken to, if not ensure total parity, ensure that further powers are devolved to the people of Wales. The West Lothian question must also be answered once and for all by the institution of English Votes for English Laws. English Votes for English Laws is the most equitable way of ensuring that MPs from England, or England and Wales, have the loudest voice on issues that solely affect England, or England and Wales. The people of Wales are crying out for a fair settlement to match the good settlement we shall be granting the people of Scotland and the people of England are crying out for an answer to the West Lothian question.

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William Croft
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14/05/2019 3:05 pm  

The Scottish people made the right choice for Scotland's future, and now it is incumbent upon Westminster to do the same. I could not be happier about the results of this week's referendum, and of the fact that our Union will remain united. As the son of a Scottish mother this matter has been and always be one of great personal significance to me. I have always believed our United Kingdom is stronger together, and this result makes it very clear that the people of Scotland feel the same way. The Scottish people voted to secure a more prosperous future for every British people, no matter where they live, from each corner of our great United Kingdom. I am deeply thankful for that. Today is a day for celebration, but tomorrow we must get back to work delivering on the promises we made to build a more independent and robust Scottish Parliament. 

William Croft
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Sylviane Jaubert
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14/05/2019 6:51 pm  

I am deeply grateful that people of Scotland chose to stay in our union. We have promised that with voting no, Scotland will get new powers and a better deal, Scotland won't be facing status quo. We will make Scottish Parliament and devolution permanent part of UK constitution, so that if a future government wants to take back these devolved rights, they won't be able to without consent of people of Scotland. We will expand tax powers of Scottish parliament so that if a future UK government refuses to establish fair tax rates on the rich, Scotland will be able to do it. Finally we will work with the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish government over what will be best for Scotland in terms of devolving welfare and energy powers. My government will deliver these promises to Scotland.

Sylviane Jaubert MP
MP for Cynon Valley

Formerly as The Rt Hon Ariadne "Ari" Suchet MP
Former Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party

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Macmillan
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14/05/2019 6:54 pm  

The Prime Minister says she held her tongue during the campaign, finally something she says that doesn't turn out to be a mere fabrication. The truth is that the Prime Minister didn't make one trip to Scotland during the referendum. The woman who tried to force Scottish Labour to form their own campaign outside of Better Together couldn't even be bothered to meet with the people on the street preferring instead to do newspaper interviews and leave the actual convincing to people like myself, the Health Secretary Faye Gallacher, and the thousands of volunteers that worked tirelessly to keep Scotland in the United Kingdom. The Prime Minister couldn't even be bothered to get out and campaign yet she has the gall to attack the Conservative Party who were by far and away the most present on the campaign trail is the most blatant politicking we have seen since she tried to split the Better Together campaign when she was Leader of the Opposition.

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John Knox
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14/05/2019 6:57 pm  

While I am grateful for the result and existed to get to work for all of our people, it is an absolute travesty to have to witness the behaviour of English Tories. They have used this referendum for their own Westminster campaigning. That is wrong. It’s is ugly and shameful that for even a short time Dylan Macmillan couldn’t set his partisan platform to the side and focus on the future of our country. He took issue with who was where, how much they did versus others; all in all it shows that when it comes right to it the Tories are for the Tories first and only

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Sylviane Jaubert
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14/05/2019 6:59 pm  

Tactics of English Tories and SNP during this referendum has been so disappointing, while during the campaign, I have bit my tongue over Tory tactics to ensure cohesion among the No campaign while confront SNP about their record, as the campaign is over I want to address these two campaigns and their disappointing tactics. 

English Tories tried to muddy the waters over Chancellor's declaration related to currency union and weakened the message of the No campaign for sake of scoring political points in Westminster and that is so disappointing and wrong. On the night of referendum results, Dylan Macmillan tried to bring up EU as a subject on twitter. English Tories chose political expediency over the Union and I can not explain how disappointing that was for me and for the country. As the Prime Minister of this country, I won't stay silent about this cynical attempt to score points at expense of our union.

As for the SNP, SNP wants to avoid hard questions about their rosy projections and their behaviour in Westminster. They say they want to abolish the bedroom tax, yet they voted against abolishing it. They wanted to increasing basic tax allowance, yet they voted against increasing it. They say they want to provide a fairer country, yet they vote against a budget that does do that. SNP throws temper tantrums and shout Project Fear while they refuse to confront these questions about their Westminster activities and their highly questionable projections.

Sylviane Jaubert MP
MP for Cynon Valley

Formerly as The Rt Hon Ariadne "Ari" Suchet MP
Former Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party

"TrashPotato Today at 2:11 AM
my friend offered me a bottle of vodka and i sucked the vodka out the bottle like a baby sucking a titty"


Macmillan
(@dylan-macmillan)
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14/05/2019 7:00 pm  

The Prime Minister's big speech for the morning after the night before actually held very little information about the future of Scotland at all. In between the shameless plug of the Government's much maligned constitutional wrecking agenda, the frankly baffling attack against my party (the most present on the campaign trail), and Faye Gallacher appreciation was precious little about any form of plan. There was no call for compromise, no call for cross-party action, it is simply the Government's way or the highway it would seem. The Conservative Party have promised sweeping new powers to the Scottish Parliament and we will continue to advocate for them going forward, the Government should actually turn around and engage constructively instead of pushing ahead with their window-dressing.

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Macmillan
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14/05/2019 7:05 pm  

Whilst the Prime Minister "held her tongue" throughout the entire campaign, to the point where she didn't knock on a single door or join any campaigners outside of a speech and a cosy interview the rest of us got out and knocked on the doors. The Prime Minister has been quick to drop any semblance of togetherness, as she did before she became Prime Minister trying to get Scottish Labour to leave Better Together altogether, but she should take stock of the actual facts. Every day of the campaign my party and I joined some of her own cabinet colleagues knocking on doors and convincing people that we really were better as one United Kingdom. The Prime Minister may choose to make her first post-referendum speech all about her, her constitutional reform bill, and my party but at the end of the day she hasn't got a leg to stand on.

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Sylviane Jaubert
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14/05/2019 7:06 pm  

If Dylan Macmillan wants to resort to lies, that is fine but I was in Scotland, you can ask the people in Labour rally in Glasgow and look at the Daily Record headline. It is really sad that Dylan Macmillan is resorting to lies that are so easy to debunk, it shows his desperation, all he had to do was apologise for his party's behaviour during the referendum and their cynical attempt to bring Westminster politics into Scotland during such an important time for future of our union. He refuses to do so, that shows his character or more like lack of it. 

Sylviane Jaubert MP
MP for Cynon Valley

Formerly as The Rt Hon Ariadne "Ari" Suchet MP
Former Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party

"TrashPotato Today at 2:11 AM
my friend offered me a bottle of vodka and i sucked the vodka out the bottle like a baby sucking a titty"


Macmillan
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14/05/2019 7:10 pm  

The Conservative Party laid out a comprehensive reform agenda during the referendum campaign that would see the Scottish Parliament empowered. We would devolve income tax to Holyrood fully giving the Scottish Parliament the power to give Scottish workers a tax cut or give Scottish public services more funding. We pledged to give Scotland the power to vary corporation tax by five percent to enable Scotland to tailor their situation to Scottish business' requirements, either by promoting investment with a cut or by funding government-led action in Scotland with a rise. Finally we pledged to make Holyrood a fully empowered part of our constitution with a constitutional lock meaning it could not be abolished without a 2/3rds majority in the Scottish Parliament or a referendum of the Scottish people. These are the reforms that we should be talking about, these are the reforms that I will be trying to get for the people of Scotland, if the Prime Minister wants to meet with me and discuss them she knows where I am.

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