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Press cycle 22 - Shadow Budget  

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John Knox
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11/06/2019 9:50 pm  

While the Conservatives tout that they have cut spending, they fail to cut the deficit it. In fact, this Labour-led coalition is cutting the deficit 6% faster than the Conservative plan. At the same time, they touted £800 per year back into people’s pockets. Under our proposals, many citizens would keep £1000. We made no changes to VAT and we increased education spending. All in all, Labour is shrinking the deficit faster, increasing wages higher, cutting taxes lower, and investing in services better. 

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Steven Andrews
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12/06/2019 9:43 am  

I've heard the Government claim that many citizens would save more under their proposal.  As far as I can tell, however, their budget only exempts £1000 from tax at 20%, for a savings of no more than about £200.  To save a taxpayer £1000, the exemption would have needed to be raised by five times that amount, or £5000.  Furthermore, I can find no other savings for individuals in the areas of income tax, National Insurance, or any significant changes to VAT or other indirect taxes in the favor of individuals.  The math is simple: The average worker would save four times as much under the Conservative Shadow Budget than they would under Labour's budget, while many middle class families would save far, far more.

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Bertie
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12/06/2019 11:44 am  

Under these Conservative proposals the deficit falls 6% slower than under Labour. Whilst they may preach fiscal responsibility the reality is that they are profligate and wasting taxpayer’s money on half-baked tax cuts and cuts to services. Labour is delivering an extra £1000 tax-free to the people of this country, £200 higher than the Conservatives. In addition, Labour is cutting the deficit further and bolstering services. We are giving back £1000 safe from tax. Labour is increasing free childcare; the Conservatives offer nothing. Labour is increasing the pupil premium; the Conservatives offer nothing. Labour is keeping down fares and rising investment; the Conservatives offer higher fares and lower investment. For all these cuts, you must wonder; why have they failed to cut the deficit as well as Labour? The simple answer is this; the Conservatives are reckless, unconcerned with the national debt and only wish to cut services rather than the deficit. The have a single-minded dogmatic agenda of austerity that failed before, and is failing to match up to the deficit cuts of pragmatic investment and economical policy.

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Steven Andrews
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12/06/2019 12:22 pm  

It would appear that we have a chronically innumerate government: As anybody who reads the numbers in it can tell, the Shadow Budget reduces the deficit by nearly £23bn vs last year.  As anyone who can do math can tell, the Shadow Budget provides a tax cut for the average British worker that is four times the size of Labour's.  It clearly isn't just the Chancellor, either, since multiple MPs have raised the same point.  Clearly whomever is writing Labour's talking points skipped the percentages chapter in their maths class.

And of course, this is the charitable explanation.  It would be far too easy to assert that Labour is simply lying to cover for a budget that does very little for anybody in the hopes of fooling voters, but I'd prefer to give them the benefit of innumerate ineptitude than accuse them of trying to mislead the public, but it is a sad day when you have to presume that the government is incompetent at putting a budget together rather than lying to the public about their tax cuts, and yet here we are.

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Steven Andrews
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12/06/2019 12:39 pm  

It may be true that the Government's projections for the budget show a slightly smaller deficit, but the Government's budget does nothing to open up the markets or encourage growth.  By abolishing Capital Gains Tax, the Shadow Budget would not only encourage investment, and with it economic growth.  The abolition of Capital Gains Tax has the potential to drive unprecedented growth in the City of London and beyond while an OCED-leading corporate tax regime should help multiply the effects of these moves.  When combined with the reduction in tax on average-income households, our Shadow Budget will help drive both investment and consumption...and with it, boost tax revenue from all sides.

In the end, though, it is clear that Labour would rather split hairs over the exact size of the deficit than talk about bold, fresh ideas because Labour doesn't have any of the latter.  Their budget does nothing to unlock our economic potential.  At its best one can call it a water-treading placeholder; at its worst, it represents a continuation of failed investments into white elephants and a failure to invest in our national defense.

Steven Andrews, MP for Croydon South

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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 2:21 pm  

The Conservative Party plan is the only one that combines tax cuts for everyone with strong fiscal discipline. Under Conservative Party plans the average worker would be £800 a year better off compared to the £200 better off under Labour's plans, businesses would thrive with tax cuts to Corporation Tax where Labour is increasing taxes on business, and investment would be encouraged through our ditching of the antiquated Capital Gains Tax where Labour keeps it. Tory Britain is an open market with low taxes for business and tax cuts for all, Labour's Britain is anti-business, anti-consumer, and pro-tax hikes.

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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 2:24 pm  

Labour are lying to the country about their tax proposals, their £1000 increase in the Personal Allowance is equivalent to a £200 saving for British workers, £600 less than the savings the average worker would make under Conservative plans the Shadow Chancellor outlined in our party's Shadow Budget. The Government may be content to mislead, or flat out lie, to the British public but it's time they were honest. The average worker is £600 a year better off under the Tories than under Labour and that is a fact.

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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 2:27 pm  

The reinvention of the Conservative Party is an opportunity to correct historic injustices in our economy. For years London has been gaining a disproportionate share of our transport and infrastructure investment so the Conservative Party are actively taking steps to restore the balance in favour of the other nations and regions of the United Kingdom. Under our Shadow Budget HS2 and Crossrail would be scrapped in favour of less London-centric proposals for investment be they in Scotland, Wales, Liverpool or Cornwall. Whilst Labour and the Lib Dems continue to divert much needed infrastructure funding into London it is the Conservative Party's Shadow Budget that will spread the investment to the areas that need it most across the country.

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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 2:35 pm  

Labour and the Liberal Democrats are waging war on business with their Budget, they are waging war on big business with NIC increases and paltry Corporation Tax cuts whilst simultaneously waging war on the British high street by increasing Business Rates. The Conservative Party will cut taxes for all business to promote economic growth in our economy, we will abolish Capital Gains Tax to encourage inwards investment, and we will protect the high street by freezing small business business rates. In one year Labour have managed to slow our economic recovery, under the Conservative Party we will bring about a proper recovery built on business rather than Government handouts.

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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 2:37 pm  

The Conservative Party have declared war on exploitative gambling and betting shops who take advantage of the poor and the desperate in our society. Labour have declared war on our nation's pensioners by cutting the amount you can save for your retirement tax-free. It will be for Britain to decide at the next election which war they want to continue, the war on exploitation or the war on pensioners.

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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 2:42 pm  

The Conservative Party have protected per-pupil university funding in real terms this year, under the Government's plans they would cut per-student funding in real terms. It is well known that the Liberal Democrats will promise students the moon and the sky to get elected, it is now increasingly clear that Labour are following the same approach. Far from upholding their commitment to abolish tuition fees and protect per-student funding this Government is simply cutting student funding because it has become too expensive for them to maintain. Only the Conservative Party can be trusted to work in the best interests of students and universities across the country.

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General Goose
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12/06/2019 4:06 pm  

There are a few facts about the Conservative shadow budget that everybody needs to know. They break manifesto pledge after manifesto pledge, they invest less in the future of our country than the government does, they invest less in promoting social mobility and educational access, they don't even reduce the deficit by as much as we have done. The Conservative Party manifesto was widely derided for containing very few concrete policy proposals - now they've gone back on the few that they had. This is a party that is not fit to govern. 

Graham Adiputera (Lib Dem - Sutton and Cheam)
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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 8:46 pm  

The reinvention of the Conservative Party is gathering steam with commitments to save the average worker £800 per year - £600 per year more than the Government is doing, a real terms protection of per-student university funding - the Government cut real terms funding, and the protection of funding for front line educational funding in real terms. The Shadow Budget is a triumph of sensible economics combining tax cuts for the least well off in our society and the promotion of British business and investment with reasoned spending and targeted investment. The Government may be content to guess at the amount of savings they can make to try and massage the figures in line with our deficit reduction plan but the people don't want Tory lite, they want the Conservative Party proper and the polls show it.

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Macmillan
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12/06/2019 8:49 pm  

The first Chancellor of this Government began a war on pensioners that his successor has decided to continue, his replacement has proven to be every bit as inept and incompetent as his predecessor. The Chancellor's lies about income tax reduction have been proven to be false, his defence of exploitative gambling facilities has been shot to pieces, and his war on pensioners has been continuously and demonstrably pushed back against by the public. If you want a low tax agenda that puts the vulnerable first and safeguards you in your old age then you have got to vote Conservative at the next election.

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Sylviane Jaubert
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12/06/2019 10:55 pm  

Let's look at the Tory tax cuts for the poor. They seem nice but they actually tax the poorest of Britain more. Under the Tory plan, the basic allowance threshold has been frozen and under our plan it has been increased by a thousand pounds, this change affects 6 million people across the UK, 1.2 million people won't be taxed under our plan while under the Tory plan they will be taxed. We are talking about losses up to 150 pounds a year. You know who benefits from the Tory tax plan the super rich, if you earn half a million pounds a year, you'd be getting thousands of pounds in tax cuts. Let's not pretend who the Tories work for, they work for their donors. Their donors will be getting thousands of pounds in just income tax cuts. When you add billions from capitals gains tax cuts, you will be seeing the real picture who their tax plan benefits, their donors, not you. 

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