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#41
To hear Harold Saxon today you wouldn't think that we have a record Budget surplus and are paying down debt - after the Tories piled on £200 billion of it in their last five years of government. You also wouldn't think that the ills in our public services had anything to do with eighteen years of under-investment. That pre-fab schools or NHS winter crises didn't have an obvious cause in it being all our public services could afford under the Tories. 

Mr. Saxon has called for a review of why there aren't enough NHS beds: I can tell him without a review. It's because the NHS didn't get enough cash from the Tories to buy them - they were the first government to cut the NHS budget in decades. We've increased NHS spending by 7% but we need to go further. Our public services need action now, not empty promises, ringfences and reviews.
Rt. Hon. Sean Manning MP

Chancellor of the Exchequer (2000 - )
Labour MP for Bristol East (1992 - )
Chief Secretary to the Treasury (1997 - 2000)
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#42
Harold Saxon has shown himself to be a woeful Prime Minister in Waiting, his attack on the homosexual community declaring his support for Section 28 is nothing short of discriminatory nonsense. It is clear that the Conservative Party are not interested in governing for the people of the United Kingdom, they are merely interested in campaigning for their people. Human Rights are universal, including the right to Freedom of Expression and a right to Education which Section 28 suppresses by virtue of it banning discussion about homosexuality in multiple climates. By denying our citizens their human rights Harold Saxon is calling the entire homosexual community second class citizens, it is clear they still have not learned anything since they overturned their leader for being gay.

Harold Saxon talks about debt with the Liberal Democrat and Labour plans for the economy, yet he pledges to cut fuel duty with no way to pay for it. How will you pay for it Harry? Cuts to the NHS or hikes in tax?

According to Harold Saxon ensuring that fuel reaches the petrol stations is akin to ending free speech. The Tories would see us return to the 70s industrial strife where a protest would see the entire country being shut down. Harold Saxon is clearly more of the Foot/Callaghan mould than the Thatcher/Churchill one.
REBECCA FLAIR

LIB DEM MP FOR MONTGOMERYSHIRE
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Milton Friedman
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#43
Although Rebecca's flair comments about my interview on section 28 are absurd, it was nice of the Liberal Democrats to acknowledge me as the Prime Minister in waiting, this out of touch Government is an abject failure and the Conservatives are ready to lead.

I've been clear on section 28, Rebecca Flair has so got it wrong. Whilst the Liberal Democrat Leader is showcasing her talent of selective hearing, the Conservatives are the party that are promoting traditional family values in our Education system.
James Allen

MP for Leeds Central

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#44
Harold Saxon may call himself a guardian of traditional family values, Section 28 is a discriminatory system which serves to do nothing but leave homosexual young people unaware of themselves. Without proper education we will see an increase in unsafe sex and in AIDS, which is more common in the homosexual community. The Conservative Party are prioritising their bigotry over people's lives, their identities and their human rights. Frankly Harold should be ashamed of himself.
REBECCA FLAIR

LIB DEM MP FOR MONTGOMERYSHIRE
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'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded. - Friedrich Hayek
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Milton Friedman
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#45
Once again Rebecca Flair is suffering from a bout of selective hearing. She talks about how I spoke about the Liberal Democrats' plans for the economy on my interview on Newsnight.  I didn't mention once the Liberal Democrats in my interview,  although I explained how we would pay for the NHS through efficiency savings from Government departments like the DfT, saving £2 billion so Flair clearly is on another planet.
James Allen

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#46
Tonight we saw the final proof that the Tories are unfit to run our NHS. Firstly Harry Saxon pledged to outsource cleaning services to private companies, then he pledged to privatise our ambulances. The NHS already outsource their cleaning contracts to private companies, indeed it was Tory Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher who made the changes, if they can't remember what they themselves did in Government how can they be fit to lead us going forward? And if they would seek to privatise key NHS services, how can we trust them not to do the same for the rest of the NHS as well?
REBECCA FLAIR

LIB DEM MP FOR MONTGOMERYSHIRE
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'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded. - Friedrich Hayek
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Milton Friedman
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#47
The Liberal Democrats claim that they are the party of the NHS, although they've only claimed to invest an extra £540 million. They've pledged to pay for this by increasing money on a packet of cigarettes. The Conservatives on the other hand will invest more than that, we can find savings of £2 billion from wasteful spending and we will immediately conduct a review into the NHS as the next Government. 

(02-11-2018, 10:35 PM)Sir Harold Saxon Wrote: The Liberal Democrats claim that they are the party of the NHS, although they've only claimed to invest an extra £540 million. They've pledged to pay for this by increasing money on a packet of cigarettes. The Conservatives on the other hand will invest more than that, we can find savings of £2 billion from wasteful spending and we will immediately conduct a review into the NHS as the next Government. 

OOC: should read *pledged to invest
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#48
Harold Saxon says that he will cut £2 billion from 'wasteful spending' to fund the NHS. Leaving aside the fact that £2 billion is nowhere near enough to put the NHS finances on a sustainable footing, his identified target - the Department for Trade and Industry - would put jobs at risk. Finding £2 billion of cuts to that department might mean -

- Ending the New Deal (£1.7 billion), that has helped hundreds of thousands of young people out of long-term unemployment and off the dole
- Abolishing regional development agencies (£1 billion), which support economic growth and jobs in some of Britain's poorest areas
- Ending grants to research councils (£1.6 billion), which invest in cutting edge research to support the future economy and improve our every day lives.


The fact is that Harold Saxon is making up his economic policy on the hoof in live interviews and isn't giving any thought to the impact brazen cuts might have on jobs and livelihoods. He needs to come clean on where the Tory cuts will fall and who they will affect.
Rt. Hon. Sean Manning MP

Chancellor of the Exchequer (2000 - )
Labour MP for Bristol East (1992 - )
Chief Secretary to the Treasury (1997 - 2000)
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#49
The Chancellor of the Exchequer is at it again, scaremongering when the reality is that levels of government spending are far too high and we need to cut wasteful spending in Govenrment departments. His party's policy of spend, spend, spend will not only ensure that millions if not billions will go to areas where funding isnt needed, it will also ensure in major tax rises or even excess borrowing. 

He talks about me making up economic policy on the hoof, the Conservatives policy is quite clear, we will find efficiency savings from Government departments, reducing wasteful spending that this Government has racked up. What we need to do is find savings and fund our public services. Labour on the other hand will spend us into oblivion.

The Chancellor himself hasn't outlined how he will fund the NHS, we should brace ourselves for a VAT rise in the budget.
James Allen

MP for Leeds Central

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#50
General Press Cycle, Week 2: Disasters, Fuel Crisis 2.0 and Newsnight
 
Labour: 20
 
You guys have gotten a lot better at defending yourselves when it comes to the fuel crisis, which is needed.
 
The Chancellor also did some great takedowns of Saxon. He didn’t quite go for the jugular the way the Liberal Democrats did, but your attacks still hurt and no matter how annoyed people are with the Labour government at present, Manning has ensured that as things stand Labour are still comfortably the fiscally responsible and business as usual party.
 
Conservatives: 13
 
Not your best round, Tories. Saxon’s interview did highlight a few weak spots that made Labour and the Liberal Democrats attack you, and you didn’t rally the troops to your defence and your defence was a bit feeble (‘well you called me a PM in waiting lol you lose’ is not going to go down well with the British public).
 
On the fuel crisis, again – there need to be improvements. A lot of your points were repeated again… and again… and again… So diminishing returns means it’s not going to let you gain. Worse, though, is that situations adapt and you need to adapt with them: the protests are certainly a blight for the Labour govt – and people are sick of fuel prices – but there’s no chaos in the streets as things are. You need new attack lines and a new strategy.
 
Liberal Democrats: 17
 
This was your probably your best round, and you could’ve won had Labour not rallied the troops out in force and had some equally strong attack lines! Some nice little policy announcements at first, but after Saxon’s newsnight interview you really went in for the kill – and your attacks hurt.
 
Influence Points Awarded to:
 
Lillian Nichols: “It is the responsibility of government, not to yield to ransom notes, written in letters or lorries, but to steward the country through the easy and tough of it.” Best contribution this week – and the best defence from the govt of the fuel crisis. It’s tough talking but makes it clear why the government has got to get tough: economic policy can’t be made on the whims of a few lorry drivers, and even people who support the protests can appreciate this point. Well done.
 
Rebecca Flair: “It is clear that the Conservative Party are not interested in governing for the people of the United Kingdom, they are merely interested in campaigning for their people.” Is the sentiment cliché and debatable? Of course. But things are cliché for a reason – usually because they work, and this is the kind of sentiment that has, does and debatably always will haunt the Tories even at their strongest because it resonates with a lot of key voters. Plus, Flair made it well and tied it in with section 28 effectively.
 
Sean Manning: “He needs to come clean on where Tory cuts will fall and who they will affect.” Manning also scores another Tory sore spot – the budget has been released so the Tories need to build a clear economic vision and be clear where they will cut (T&I budget might be an easy route, but as Manning outlines what in it? Some of the budget will likely affect breadlines).
 
Saxon’s response to this line could haunt Labour in future though, with spending commitments, what tax rises could there be in future? The Tories could do well stoking those flames as well as more clearly outlining their economic vision.
 
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Apologies for the lateness! Also, two repeated points:
 
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#51
The defining characteristic of this government has been its deafening silence. Silence on the struggle of pensioners. Silence on the brutal murder of our children. Silence on the MMR crisis. Silence on criticism over child poverty. It is time for the Prime Minister to lead, follow or get out of the way.
Rt Hon Harriet Roth MP
Member of Parliament for Stoke-on-Trent North (1983-)
Former Secretary of State for Infrastructure, Energy and the Environment
Former Secretary of State for Housing and Urban Development

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Quote:If you ever wanted proof of how unfit the Conservatives are for Government you need only look at their inability to turn up and debate an issue as severe as child poverty. The fact that there are children and young people growing up in the poverty trap is a national disgrace and one that should be dealt with most urgently by all parties. The fact that the Tories cannot even be bothered to show up shows the complete contempt they hold for children, families and the poor in our society. So much for family values.


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Quote:The Government's silence on the issues of crime and health is quite frankly baffling. Whilst the Liberal Democrats have put forward a fully costed plan to deal with crime and invest in our health service, and even the Tories have put forward their desires to put every single person found guilty of a crime in jail for life, the Government have been as silent as a church mouse. The point of a government is to govern the nation, if this government can't even be bothered to do that then why are they even bothering to stand for office?
REBECCA FLAIR

LIB DEM MP FOR MONTGOMERYSHIRE
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'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded. - Friedrich Hayek
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Milton Friedman
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#53
Ms Flair talks about raising inheritance tax, yet the former economics student thinks inheritance tax is based on earnings, rather than property value. The Liberal Democrats cant even tell you what taxes will go up, first suggesting income tax then suggesting it would stay the same or go down. The Liberal Democrats cannot be trusted with the economy, if Ms Flair had her way, the economy would be in a precarious position with Flair at the helm making it up as she goes along.
James Allen

MP for Leeds Central

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I wish to express my deepest sympathy for Elizabeth Tanner and her family during this extremely difficult time.
Rt Hon Harriet Roth MP
Member of Parliament for Stoke-on-Trent North (1983-)
Former Secretary of State for Infrastructure, Energy and the Environment
Former Secretary of State for Housing and Urban Development

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#55
The new Prime Minister claims that if Britain isnt broken there is no need to fix it. Yet we are seeing violent crime on the increase, the murder of innocent young individuals like Damilola Taylor and an NHS and Edcuation System that is struggling to deal with the measles outbreak in our hospitals and our schools. 

If the new PM thinks Britain isnt broken, then this country is led by a Government that is out of touch and oblivious to the real issues that are affecting this country and matter to the British people.
James Allen

MP for Leeds Central

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#56
After a very frank conversation with the Prime Minister, I have agreed to join the Cabinet. I believe the Prime Minister intends to have a government of all talents, that represents the broad church that is the Labour Party. He understands my commitment to a radical people-focused agenda and I understand his commitment to the party and the country. I intend to get hard to work pushing ahead with an agenda that puts people before profit.
Rt Hon Harriet Roth MP
Member of Parliament for Stoke-on-Trent North (1983-)
Former Secretary of State for Infrastructure, Energy and the Environment
Former Secretary of State for Housing and Urban Development

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#57
I'm disappointed to see what is happening in Richmondshire on council tax. It's not my place to interfere in the democratic decisions made by local councils on tax in their area, but these councils do have to operate in the framework that set up in Westminster. And I do think the protesters - even if I can't endorse their methods - have a point when they say that the council tax is unfair. It was cobbled together by the last Tory government in a panic after the poll tax. I want to get this right, so I have asked the current Chair of the Local Government Association, Jeremy Beecham, to lead a cross-party Royal Commission to recommend an alternative. The Government will consider the outcome of that Review and if it recommends doing so, I will legislate to abolish and replace the Council tax with a fairer, more sustainable alternative.
Rt. Hon. Sean Manning MP

Chancellor of the Exchequer (2000 - )
Labour MP for Bristol East (1992 - )
Chief Secretary to the Treasury (1997 - 2000)
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#58
I am delighted to be receiving the President of the United States in April of this year and I look forward to working with President Powell now and in the future. The United States is one of our closest allies and we share a special relationship which I hope to strengthen further when he crosses an ocean to visit the United Kingdom.
Hon. Charles Trenython MP | Conservative Party
Member of Parliament for Staffordshire South (1987-present)
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General Press Cycle Week 3: Government Silence & Changing of the Guard
 
Labour: 13
 
So Labour have been through the mill and back, but they’ve made it out okay – last place and a 13 might not make it look like so, but the government were seen as a disaster and completely silent on issues plaguing the country, whether that’s health, crime or other disasters. The opposition as well as Labour’s own backbenchers picked this up and it hurt.
 
Now things seem to be picking up, we have a new Prime Minister thanks to tragic circumstances and the government seems back on trick, visits to the US and a review on an unpopular tax is always a plus. The public wait with baited breath.
 
Conservatives: 23
 
The Tories really capitalised on Labour’s silence, and have pushed particularly hard on issues such as crime so they are gaining public favour. However, this press round basically had the points handed to you – with the government seemingly back in action they’re likely going to need to up their a-game.
 
Liberal Democrats: 14
 
What is there to say about Flair that won’t be said again? The Tories will always be the first party the general public turn to if a Labour government is failing, but Flair capitalises well and also makes both of the parties look silent and out of touch while she is working hard for the British people.
 
Influence Points Awarded to:
 
Harriet Roth: “The defining characteristic of this government has been its deafening silence. Silence on the struggle of pensioners. Silence on the brutal murder of our children. Silence on the MMR crisis. Silence on criticism over child poverty. It is time for the Prime Minister to lead, follow or get out the way.” Boy, oh boy – Roth has really been a highlight of the round, and this general press cycle was a particular rollercoaster. She blasted the government more than opposition parties could hope (which hurt), and days later got into government.
 
Roth’s critics even admire her – she has shown something few possess, despite not having much Parliamentary influence she can play her card right and really force an agenda and push herself up the ranks of power, she never fails to show passion or conviction and crucially she does seem to have a pragmatic streak not associated with her politics. I’m interested to see where Roth goes in future.
 
Sean Manning: “The government will consider the outcome of that Review and if it recommends doing so, I will legislate to abolish and replace the council tax with a fairer, more sustainable alternative.” As polling has shown, Manning is popular amongst the public – a popular Chancellor in an otherwise quite unpopular government. It’s nice he’s back and has politically manoeuvred effectively around a prickly issue.
 
Callum Finch: “The United States is one of our closest allies and we share a special relationship which I hope to strengthen further when he crosses an ocean to visit the United Kingdom.” Our new Prime Minister – with some pretty interesting news. The Prime Minister coming back could be the reboot the government needs, and with an immediate foreign policy goody there’s hope that very well could be the case.
 
General Points:
 
  • Remember to bold your taglines. If you don’t it could affect your mark – the press won’t know what to capitalise on. Even if your statement is a single sentence just bolden the whole thing.
  • I’ll miss the Lib Dems and this is their last mark, I believe. So lets give the Lib Dems a round of applause – Rebecca Flair will still be carrying on as an NPC leader. 
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Earlier today I announced a major probe into Railtrack, a firm commitment to safer rail transit and a pledge to implement immediate measures to prevent a derailment from occurring again in the future. There is a growing housing crisis and we will address it. There is an immediate need for change in our railways, and we will lead the charge for reform. I do not intend to sit idly in government. We have in our power to the ability to implement real, meaningful change in people's lives and we intend to do that. I pity those who intend to stand in the way of progress.
Rt Hon Harriet Roth MP
Member of Parliament for Stoke-on-Trent North (1983-)
Former Secretary of State for Infrastructure, Energy and the Environment
Former Secretary of State for Housing and Urban Development

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